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Following the tremors that hit the great Lakes region and parts of East Africa late last year (including kenya), I carried a piece on this weblog on December 6, 2005 asking that the man who had been reported in sections of the Kenyan media as having predicted such beforehand come out and speak on the developments. At the time, my plea got nothing from Dr. David Owuor - the man reported as having prophesied about the tremors and other major events around the world. There were, instead, some interesting responses from some of my readers (kindly refer to the comments' section of the post in question). At around 12:30 a.m today (Kenyan time), however, a reader calling himself Dr. Owuor responded to the said post. Said he: "Praise the LORD. Im Dr. David Owuor. The LORD has spoken with me about the Earthquakes and HE has commanded that we repent so that church can prepare for the Rapture. On the 30th Octobr 2005, I prophecied that this E.African Earthquake was going to come and a month later it appears after the initial earlier warning (sic)." He continued: "Surely The LORD is very serious and HE has sent me to prophecy events such as the Asian Tsunami a moth before it occurred, Pakistani Earthquake, Afghanistani Earthquake (24hr warning), and the current tonardos in Illinois. Let the Church repent and prepare for the LORD." And he also said: ".....You can all get the prophecy out of the Kapsokwany repentance meeting on 30th October 2005. The tapes are available, call 0721-370-150 or 0724-268-148." I'm not in a position to call the number from where I'm at the moment, but I'll greatly appreciate hearing from anyone of you who manages to get through with the number or even access the mentioned resource materials concerning the Kapsokwony meeting. This is in no way a commentary on the veracity or lack thereof on anything there is or might be concerning Dr. Owuor and what he is about; it is merely a note to the Christians among us who have previously been divided on this matter. Over to you ladies and gentlemen!

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Blogger Pukks said...

Sometimes it is good to act Thomas and demand to see 'the wounds'. Dr Owuor should be more emphatic. We want some definite signs. For example this is going to happen and so and so will be that and that. Then when it happens we know the subsequent is true. For Jesus it was the dove from above who descended on him and ofcourse there is the voice that said 'This is my beloved son'. Where is that sign Dr Owuor. Otherwise as Christian I say If your prophecy is from God - it will be known eventually.

3/15/2006 11:05:00 am  
Blogger Ogweno Daniel Owino said...

A friend told me about Dr. Owuor about a week ago. As at now, it may be too early to make judgements. The content of what he teaches/preaches may be the yardstick to authenticate him as a servant of God. If one can listen to his tapes, one can then measure them against a balanced biblical theology. Not every servant of God may may have a dove or a voice from heaven to confirm them.

We also know that miracles are not perfomed on demand.

3/15/2006 11:53:00 am  
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"Many will come in my,name, performing miracles..." does that sound familiar?

3/15/2006 01:24:00 pm  
Anonymous isaac kitur said...

I called the number 0721 370 150 and I can confirm that it belongs to Dr Owuor’s ministry. You can also call the Jesus is Lord Ministries/Radio at Nakuru. They told me that the tapes are available and if you are in Nairobi you can reach them tomorrow (16/03/2006) at Makini School.

I first listened to Dr Owuor for the first time in November last year in Bomet. Until that day I had my doubts concerning some of the prophecies and probably his ministry. After listening to him all my doubts were erased. His main theme is repentance something that many men and women of God now are reluctant to talk about. He does not collect offerings and infact rebukes our charismatic brethren for being too preoccupied with prosperity gospel.

In that meeting which took place somewhere in Rift Valley many people turned to the Lord. And let me say that I have never seen Kalenjin men weep in public the way it happened in that meeting.

3/15/2006 03:12:00 pm  
Blogger Kenyan Idiot said...

God cannot be ltd to anything or any way of action, that much we know. He used Balaak and many other wicked pagans to fulfil his will. BUT he also used devout men to proclaim his message to mankind. That being the case, i wish to state categorically that the 'happenings' were indeed God's doing for reasons best known to Him. As to whether he used Dr. Owuor is immaterial, though we cannot ignore his message of repentance (IF AT ALL THATS WHAT HE PROCLAIMS, AS ONE READER COMMENTS). the message of repentance is quite biblical and is the only way of restoration to the cultural mandate. If we are too curious on Dr. owuor we may miss the point just like herod was too curious on Jesus but missed his salvation. Its not about People, its all about Jesus.
Nevertheless, if we must trust Dr. Owuor and his prophesies then his justice to scripture is the only yardstick... as long as he isn't doing any aesegesis for his own good then all is fine. Only pure exegesis based on sound biblical principles will confirm to us God's message to Dr. Owuor.

3/15/2006 07:00:00 pm  
Blogger Kenyan Idiot said...

God cannot be ltd to anything or any way of action, that much we know. He used Balaak and many other wicked pagans to fulfil his will. BUT he also used devout men to proclaim his message to mankind. That being the case, i wish to state categorically that the 'happenings' were indeed God's doing for reasons best known to Him. As to whether he used Dr. Owuor is immaterial, though we cannot ignore his message of repentance (IF AT ALL THATS WHAT HE PROCLAIMS, AS ONE READER COMMENTS). the message of repentance is quite biblical and is the only way of restoration to the cultural mandate. If we are too curious on Dr. owuor we may miss the point just like herod was too curious on Jesus but missed his salvation. Its not about People, its all about Jesus.
Nevertheless, if we must trust Dr. Owuor and his prophesies then his justice to scripture is the only yardstick... as long as he isn't doing any aesegesis for his own good then all is fine. Only pure exegesis based on sound hermeneutical principles will confirm to us God's message to Dr. Owuor.

3/15/2006 07:02:00 pm  
Blogger WM said...

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3/16/2006 06:08:00 am  
Anonymous isaac kitur said...

I called the number 0721 370 150 and I can confirm that it belongs to Dr Owuor’s ministry. You can also call the Jesus is Lord Ministries/Radio at Nakuru. They told me that the tapes are available and if you are in Nairobi you can reach them tomorrow (16/03/2006) at Makini School.

I listened to Dr Owuor for the first time in November last year in Bomet. Until that day I had my doubts concerning some of the prophecies and probably his ministry. After listening to him all my doubts were erased. His main theme is repentance something that many men and women of God now are reluctant to talk about. He does not collect offerings and infact rebukes our charismatic brethren for being too preoccupied with prosperity gospel.

In that meeting many people turned to the Lord. And let me say that I have never seen Kalenjin men weep in public the way it happened in that meeting.

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3/16/2006 02:04:00 pm  
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Anonymous Patrick said...

Shalom
Thanks atleast.Am in one of the nations affected by Tsunami.May such not come to Kenya.God have mercy.

3/17/2006 04:57:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On a similar subject, if anyone does obtain these tapes..could they put them online for us to share?

3/23/2006 03:04:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love the comments and observations of Dr. Owour. I share the doctor's points of view on specifically the church and the focus the church and her institutions have taken... Key to all these, is the church still playing a central role in the lives of societies and shaping attitudes of the same or are the leaders of the church also engrained in the chain and marsh that is corruption, immorality, and politics.... and have managed to inflict substancial fear to their followers blinding them to the very unusual activities of those the followers call their spiritual shepherds???

Charles

3/27/2006 07:03:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love the comments and observations of Dr. Owour. I share the doctor's points of view on specifically the church and the focus the church and her institutions have taken... Key to all these, is the church still playing a central role in the lives of societies and shaping attitudes of the same or are the leaders of the church also engrained in the chain and marsh that is corruption, immorality, and politics.... and have managed to inflict substancial fear to their followers blinding them to the very unusual activities of those the followers call their spiritual shepherds???

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3/27/2006 07:09:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When one thinks closely, Dr. Owour's comments are not news... Inside ourselves, we always have known, though dared not comment, lest we are branded 'unusual' or something worse... So, how is the Dr. different??? he dares says it. But most significantly, he is a 'somebody'- well schooled and experienced and all that... he gets the much needed audience... thank God he makes sense...

Far from it, what has gone wrong with society, in actual effect, what has gone wrong in me and/or in you... Our humanity longs for a relationship with our creator. However, we are lazy to pick the bible (or whatever your source of faith) study it, question it, seek valuable solutions for regarding salvation...

How is that different from a huge number of our current spiritual leaders, who have little or no difference to the current breed of politicians???

They simply have unearthed our weakness, or it our laziness? They have analyzed what we want most to hear and they give it to us.

Eventually, getting material wealth through especially "planting a seed" and other gimmick tops our priorities... Forecasting based on proper planning and saving is thrown out the window and the planted seed, is surely hoped will deliver. the results, i could be forgiven for branding them catastrophic....

In my faith and whatever yours is, understand what the faith's texts describes as the proper way to leave at relative harmony with your supreme being spiritual life

On the other hand, plan for the future, no planted seeds or whatever, will overt our laziness to seek better living hoping for a miracle...
Charles

3/28/2006 06:05:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you Charlse,
I've been feeling that for ages.
I think sometimes christians fail to take enough responsibility for circumstances in their lives, but if their actions are not aligned to their prayer...

planting a seed and failing to spend wisely

God created a world of cause and consequence, isnt it?

4/08/2006 11:55:00 pm  
Anonymous Anyango said...

I have listened to Dr Owuor severally and I too like Kitur have no doubts and the yardstick for the prophecies he gives should be the whether they are in line with the Bible.
One thing for sure Kenyans cannot ignore repentance and holy living. It is time up and Christians in Kenya must style up and live the Word.
Could Kidha Kidha use terms that are easily understood. Expound on pure exegesis based on sound hermeneunticall principles. Remember Dr Owuor has not obtained theological training and depends on the Holy Spirit for guidance something some Xtians would rather not discuss.
If we are too curious we may miss the message. The Gospel is about Jesus the Risen Lord.
True not everyone may have a dove or voice. Must we see the marks in his hand. Blessed are those who believe and have not seen me. Will Jesus find faith when he returns??

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This is a message rarely preached here. Most church-going Americans are receiving Sunday sermons about God's love and forgiveness without any reference to the responsibility to walk worthy of their callings in Christ Jesus. Although Americans can easily purchase Bibles and a multitude of other books about the Christian life, we tend to read and study the portions that are pleasing to us. "Itching ears". We have many choices and are able to find material that supports just about any point of view.

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